Showing posts with label Elizabeth Byrnes. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Elizabeth Byrnes. Show all posts

Wednesday, January 8, 2020

52 Ancestors - FAVORITE PHOTO: Helen and the Byrnes Cousins


Asking me to choose a favorite photo is like asking me to pick a favorite child. I will show you one today, but tomorrow that may change. Right now my favorite photo is this one of my grandaunt Helen Killeen Parker.
Helen Killeen Parker https://jollettetc.blogspot.com
Aunt Helen
she captioned this "The Vamp"
I knew her only in her older years, so this photo of her in a 1920s swim dress with a hand-crank gramophone in the great outdoors has made me see her in a different light. But the real reason I love the photo is that I love HER and the legacy she left behind in the form of scrapbooks and loose photos. They make me want to know more about my dad’s side of the family, but Helen did not make it easy. Very few of Helen’s photos are labeled, so it has been a slow process eking out the small details to help me formulate a story of the Sheehan sisters who emigrated from Ireland to New York in the 1880s. For the most part, the family is still a mystery.

LOOKING BACK TO WEEK 2 OF 2019
Last year at this time when the 52 Ancestors theme was “Challenge,” I wrote about the challenge of finding 2 unnamed nephews mentioned in the obituary of Sr Vincent Carmel, aka Sadie Byrnes, Helen’s cousin and daughter of Elizabeth Sheehan Byrnes, my great-grandmother’s sister. Here I am a year later, writing about the same thing, but this year the story has a different ending.

All I knew last year was this:  when Sadie died in 1973, she was survived by 2 nieces and 2 nephews. I knew the girls were Madeline and Patricia, daughters of Sadie’s brother John. John died young in 1925, and his widow remarried. I wondered if she had children with her new husband Joseph P. Maloney or if one of Sadie’s other brothers had children.

DNA COMES CALLING
A short couple of weeks ago, a man (I’ll call him “K”) whose DNA matched with my dad’s contacted me to figure out how we are related. The surnames in “K’s” database did not resemble mine at all. However, we both had Irish immigrant ancestors in New York, so I suspected there was a good chance that we might find a connection collaterally further up the chain. I gave him names:
  • Johanna Sheehan and Patrick Hederman
  • Margaret Sheehan and John Nagle
  • Elizabeth Sheehan and Patrick Byrnes  (parents of John, Sadie, Robert, and others)
  • Delia Sheehan and William Christian 

Mine was not “K’s” only match nor only contact. He found John Byrnes’ granddaughter (I’ll call her “M”) and pointed her to my blog. She wrote to thank me for sharing this photo of her grandfather.
 
John Byrnes https://jollettetc.blogspot.com
Labeled "Jack" - a nickname for John
John Byrnes 1919
THOSE MYSTERY NEPHEWS
“M” also helped solve the mystery of the unnamed nephews. Well, part of it anyway. John Byrnes’ widow Madeline and her second husband Joseph P. Maloney had two sons: Joseph Jr and Robert. While that seemed to fit the facts of Sadie Byrnes’ obituary, Robert had been killed during the Korean War so would not have been one of the surviving nephews. Joseph Jr is still living, making him one of the two. But who was the other one? “M” had no suggestions because her family did not keep up with the other Byrnes brothers.

THE PLOT THICKENS AND SO DOES THE MYSTERY
Robert Byrnes 1919 https://jollettetc.blogspot.com
labeled "Cousin Bob"
Robert Byrnes 1919
“K” was searching for the REAL father of a man with whom he matched DNA. In so doing, he found brother Robert Byrnes whose common name and lack of other details had caused confusion in my tree for a while. It turns out that Robert had a wife, Mary Dempsey, and a son and daughter. Of course, that just threw off Sadie’s survivor count which had said 2 nieces and 2 nephews. Unless Robert’s daughter died before 1973, there were 3 nieces and 2 nephews.

But not so fast! “K” found more. It seems ol’ Robert was a bit of a rascal. He fathered a child with wife Mary’s sister Helen who was also married at the time. And there it is – the point where Sheehan-Byrnes-Dempsey DNA reared its Irish head. “K” found the answer to his question.

Robert was not finished though. He fathered children with another woman whom he finally married in 1963 just one month before his own death.

How did the obituary get it so wrong? Sadie’s close family were the children and grandchildren of her brother John. They were not close with the other Byrnes brothers and therefore likely had no knowledge of Robert’s life.

While my favorite photo has nothing to do with this story, Helen is the one who made these discoveries possible.

Amy Johnson Crow continues to challenge genealogy bloggers and non-bloggers alike to think about our ancestors and share a story or photo about them. The challenge is “52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks.” 
Wendy
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Tuesday, January 22, 2019

52 Ancestors - LIKE TO MEET: Poodle Woman


This week’s 52 Ancestors challenge is just a cruel joke: someone we would like to meet. Seriously, Amy? Can I just say "the whole fam damily"?

While I certainly would like to meet my oldest known ancestors just to ask, “Who’s your daddy,” I have no way to expand on it. Instead I think I would like to meet this woman:
 
Sheehan woman 1915  https://jollettetc.blogspot.com
Sheehan sister 1915 and probably Cutey

The human mother of this poodle named Cutey and whoever that other poodle was.
 
Cutey the poodle and unknown poodle https://jollettetc.blogspot.com
One poodle was named Cutey; the other is unknown.
This photo dates at the time John Jr. was born in 1917.

The mother or grandmother of these two children, John Jr. and “Bob” who was definitely a girl.
 
Sheehan woman with John Jr and Bob about 1921 beach in New York https://jollettetc.blogspot.com
John Jr and "Bob" with their grandmother (?) AND Cutey
at a beach in New York, possibly Rockaway Beach
Sheehan sister with Bob and John Jr  https://jollettetc.blogspot.com
Woman AND Cutey, "Bob," and John Jr.
Dated March 1922
Back of photo says "while they had whooping cough"

This little family constellation DRIVES. ME. CRAZY.

Why? Because these photos are from a more recent time - 1917-1920ish. Surely I SHOULD be able to identify them.

But I can’t.

All I know is that they are related SOMEHOW to my great-grandmother Mary Theresa Sheehan Killeen Walsh and that they PROBABLY lived in New York City.
 
Sheehan women, Cutey, John Jr. and Bob 1921 New York City https://jollettetc.blogspot.com
1921 New York
Two older women might be sisters of Mary Theresa Sheehan Killeen Walsh.
Younger woman in the center is possibly mother to "Bob" and John Jr.

Poodle Woman, who are you?



Amy Johnson Crow continues to challenge genealogy bloggers and non-bloggers alike to think about our ancestors and share a story or photo about them. The challenge is “52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks.”

Wendy
© 2019, Wendy Mathias. All rights reserved.

Wednesday, November 9, 2016

Genealogy Photo a Day 9: Brick Wall

Genealogy Photo a Day is a month-long challenge coordinated by Genealogy Girl Talks.

The sisters and brothers of my great-grandmother Mary Theresa Sheehan Killeen Walsh have constructed a brick wall that would make Donald Trump drool.
 
Unknown man and baby New York City 1918 https://jollettetc.blogspot.com
Is this John Sheehan in 1918?
Who is this man standing APPROPRIATELY in front of a BRICK WALL? The baby has been identified in other photos sometimes as “Bob” and sometimes as “Barbie.” Yes, it’s a girl. I THINK this man is the grandfather. But is he Mary Theresa’s brother John Sheehan? Or is he the husband of one of her sisters?

Since the man is dressed in some sort of uniform, I can easily rule out a couple of the husbands.
  • Not Patrick Hederman, Johanna’s husband. He was a porter in a grocery store and a coffee roaster.
  • Not William Christian, Delia’s husband. He ran a dry cleaners.
  • Possibly Patrick Byrnes, Elizabeth’s husband. He was a chauffeur. Is this the uniform of a chauffeur?
  • Possibly John Nagle, Margaret’s husband. He was a bank guard. This uniform bears some resemblance to a police uniform. 

Narrowing down the possibilities is further aided by another clue: Bob/Barbie’s brother John JR. Clearly there must be a John SR. I was excited to discover that Elizabeth and Patrick Byrnes had a son John. However, he was born in 1903, making him too young to be father of John Jr. in 1917. Margaret and John Nagle also had a son John, but he was born in 1911, again far too young to be John Jr’s father.

Perhaps John SR was husband to one of Mary Theresa’s nieces. 

Mary Theresa Walsh in New York 1921  https://jollettetc.blogspot.com
New York City 1921
Mary Theresa Sheehan Killeen Walsh with "Bob" and John Jr.
and probably their mother. Is this woman her niece?
Could she be the daughter of John Sheehan?

However, only Johanna had children old enough to be parents in 1917. Her son John never married. Her daughter Catherine married a man named Charles Fraundorf and they had only one daughter.

So I think the man must be Mary Theresa’s brother John Sheehan. Do you know how many John Sheehans lived in New York City in the early 1900s? Attempts to pinpoint the correct John Sheehan have been frustrating with nothing to show for my efforts.  

The Brick Wall stands.

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Wendy
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Monday, March 14, 2016

Mystery Monday: Sadie's Family

Mystery Monday is a daily prompt at Geneabloggers that encourages bloggers to write about mystery ancestors or mystery records – anything in their genealogy and family history research which is currently unsolved.

Information about Robert Byrnes has been proven to be in error. Please disregard. His story has been updated HERE.

During the month of March, I am remembering my Irish ancestors by writing about my recent discoveries. The stories still qualify for “Mystery Monday” as there are so many questions yet unanswered.

Julia Walsh and Sadie Byrnes New York  http://jollettetc.blogspot.com
Julia Walsh and Sadie Byrnes
between 1917-1920
I grew up with my cousins. We were close as children and remain so today. Even though my paternal grandmother’s cousins lived miles away in New York while she lived in Portsmouth, Virginia, my great-grandmother made sure her children knew their cousins by making frequent trips to New York. One of my favorite photos is of my granny with her cousin Sadie.

Another photo of Sadie was taken in 1969 when she visited her Portsmouth cousins. I had always heard that there was a nun in the family, and there she is. I tried unsuccessfully to trace her life as a Dominican nun, but without her religious name, no one could help me.
Sr. Vincent Carmel "Sadie" Byrnes Aug 1969 http://jollettetc.blogspot.com
Sadie Byrnes August 1969 Williamsburg, VA
Sr. Vincent Carmel







Then a little bit of serendipity came my way. My aunt recently gave me Mary Theresa Sheehan Killeen Walsh’s scrapbooks where she had saved greeting cards. Several are from her loving niece “Sr. Vincent Carmel Byrnes.” In that one card I learned both Sadie’s religious name and the correct spelling of her last name. I had searched census records for “Sadie Burns” or “Sarah Burns” because that is how someone spelled it on the back of the photo.

















I also had sought Sadie with a mother named Sarah. An old family chart identified one of Mary Theresa’s sisters as Sarah Burns. But the census records offered too many possibilities in some years and unlikely possibilities in other years, such as the one with Sadie still living at home at age 30. Surely MY Sadie would have been a nun by then.

The same scrapbooks came to the rescue with cards signed “Pat and Peggy Byrnes.”













Crossing my fingers in the hopes that Pat or Patrick was Sadie’s brother, I went to FamilySearch and entered “Patrick Byrnes” born in New York between 1890 and 1915 with a sibling named Sadie. One possibility looked especially promising. It was a 1920 Manhattan, New York census.   

from 1920 Manhattan, New York, New York census







Robert Byrnes and Helen Killeen New York 1919  http://jollettetc.blogspot.com
Cousin Bob and Helen  1919
"Atop the roof, New York"

Looking at the children’s names, I recalled some photos belonging to my grandmother’s half-sister Helen Killeen Parker. The one of “Cousin Bob” with Helen “atop the roof New York” in 1919 is probably Robert who was born in 1901. He looks to have been about 18 in the photo.


Then “Cousin Jack” is probably John who was born about 1903.
Jack or John Byrnes New York 1919  http://jollettetc.blogspot.com
"Cousin Jack"
possibly John Byrnes












The two younger children are not identified, but the girl resembles the early photo of Sadie. The boy appears to be younger, so maybe this is either Joseph or Patrick. They would have been about 10 if Joseph or 8 if Patrick; Sadie would have been about 11 or 12.
Possibly Joseph or Patrick and Sadie Byrnes 1919  http://jollettetc.blogspot.com
Cousins in New York 1919






Any thoughts that I was perhaps forcing the pictures to match the census dissipated when FamilySearch gave me a death record for Patrick Byrnes. Parents named were Patrick Byrnes and Elizabeth Sheehan. And just for good measure, the spouse was Margaret, for which Peggy is a common nickname. Ding Ding Ding I think we have a winner.

So Sadie’s mother was not Sarah after all. It was Elizabeth. The third daughter and fifth child of Daniel Sheehan and Bridget Gorman, Elizabeth was born in Croom in County Limerick, Ireland, April 18, 1871 and baptized in the Roman Catholic Church six days later. One point of confusion in the record, however, is that her parents were identified as Daniel Sheehan and Margaret Gorman, not Bridget as was recorded in every other birth and baptism record for this family. Whether this was an error on the part of the recorder or an indication of either her first or middle name is not known.  

Baptism record for Elizabeth Sheehan, daughter of Daniel Sheehan and Margaret Gorman
Ballingarry Diocese of Limerick
April 24, 1871
from Catholic Parish Registers at National Library of Ireland nli.ie

The New York census records are fairly consistent in details of Elizabeth’s and Patrick’s lives. Both came to the US in 1888 and were naturalized in 1896.  They married about 1897 and had 8 children, two of whom died before 1910. Patrick worked most of his life as a driver for a brewery although in one census he was a carpenter for the hospital.

As for the rest of the family, I have found only bits and pieces:

  • Robert moved to Florida and worked as a boat captain. On July 22, 1936 he married Lorraine Garfunkel in Henderson, North Carolina. Their home though was in Miami, Florida. In 1940, Robert was a salesman of motorboat supplies. Lorraine was a public school principal.
  • Joseph worked as a bank clerk according to the 1930 census. In 1940, he was boarding in a home in Bronx and working as a credit man for a silk house. His wife Elizabeth was a dental assistant.
  • Patrick worked as a clerk in a silk factory. In 1937 he married Margaret Mary “Peggy” Cook. They were still just newlyweds, really, when he died three years later.
The Byrnes Family:
Elizabeth SHEEHAN (18 Apr 1871 Croom, Limerick, Ireland – After 1930 probably New York) & Patrick BYRNES (1868 Ireland – After 1930 probably New York) married about 1897 New York

  1. Richard Aloysus BYRNES (9 Aug 1899 Manhattan, New York – 10 Dec 1932 Manhattan, New York)
  2. Robert BYRNES (3 Aug 1901 Manhattan New York - ) & Lorraine GARFUNKEL  married 22 Jul 1936 Henderson, North Carolina
  3. John BYRNES (1903 Manhattan, New York - )
  4. William BYRNES (5 May 1905 Manhattan, New York – 7 May 1905 Manhattan, New York)
  5. Sarah “Sadie” BYRNES (16 Feb 1907 Manhattan, New York – about 1970)
  6. Joseph BYRNES (27 Jan 1909 Manhattan, New York - ) & Elizabeth UNKNOWN
  7. Patrick BYRNES Jr. (1911 Manhattan, New York – 5 Nov 1940 Manhattan, New York) & Margaret Mary COOK married 6 March 1937 Manhattan, New York
Wendy
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